TORONTO — The smile is beatific, blissed out, even at an ungodly hour on our Zoom call from France. A week later, when I finally meet 43-year old filmmaker Oliver Laxe in person at a private Toronto celebration for his new movie "Sirât," he radiates serenity. He's the happiest (and maybe the tallest) person in the room. "One of the first ideas that I had for this film was a sentence from ...

An image from the movie “Sirât,” directed by Oliver Laxe.

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TORONTO — The smile is beatific, blissed out, even at an ungodly hour on our Zoom call from France. A week later, when I finally meet 43-year old filmmaker Oliver Laxe in person at a private Toronto celebration for his new movie "Sirât," he radiates serenity. He's the happiest (and maybe the tallest) person in the room.

"One of the first ideas that I had for this film was a sentence from Nietzsche," he says. "I won't believe in a God who doesn't dance."

Laxe goes to raves — "free parties," he clarifies, indicating the ones you need to hear about via word of mouth. He's thought deeply about what they mean and what they do to him. "We still have a memory in our bodies of these ceremonies that we were doing for thousands of years, when we were making a kind of catharsis with our bodies."

It's almost the opposite of what you expect to hear on the fall festival circuit, when directors with big ideas make their cases for the significance of the art form. But the body, the return to something purely sensorial, is Laxe's big idea.

Steadily, "Sirât" has become, since its debut at Cannes in May, a growing favorite: not merely a critic's darling but an obsession among those who've seen it. (The film will have an awards-qualifying run in Los Angeles beginning Nov. 14.) A dance party in the desert set at some vaguely hinted-at moment of apocalypse, the movie is something you feel, not solve. Its pounding EDM beats rattle pleasurably in your chest (provided the theater's speakers are up to snuff). And the explosions on the horizon shake your heartbeat.

"I really trust in the capacity of images to penetrate into the metabolism of the spectator," Laxe says. "I'm like a masseuse. When you watch my films, sometimes you'll want to kill me or you'll feel the pain in your body, like: Wow, what a treat. But after, you can feel the result."

Laxe can speak about his influences: cosmic epics by the Russian master Andrei Tarkovsky or existential road movies like "Zabriskie Point" and "Two-Lane Blacktop." But he is not a product of a typical grad-school trajectory. Rather, it's his escape from that path after growing up in northern Spanish Galicia and studying in Barcelona (he tried London for a while) that's fascinating.

"I was not good," he recalls. "I didn't find I had a place in the industry or in Europe. I was not interested. I had bought a camera, a 16-millimeter Bolex, and I knew I was accepting that my role was to be a kind of sniper that was working in the trenches but making really small films."

At age 24, Laxe moved to Tangier, Morocco, where he would live for 12 years at a monastic remove from the glamour of the movies, collaborating with local children on his films. The experience would grow into his first feature, 2010's "You Are All Captains," which eventually took him all the way to the prize-winning podium at Cannes, as did his second and third films, all of which came before "Sirât," his fourth.

"Slowly, the things we were making were opening doors," he says. "In a way, life was deciding, telling me: This is your path."

Path is what "Sirât" means in Arabic, often with a religious connotation, and his new movie takes a unique journey, traversing from the loose-limbed dancing of its early scenes to a train's tracks stretching fixedly to the end of the line. There's also a quest that gets us into the film: a father and son searching among the ravers for a missing daughter, potentially a nod to "The Searchers" or Paul Schrader's "Hardcore," but not a plot point that Laxe feels especially interested in expounding on.

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Director Oliver Laxe, whose film "Sirât" is playing at the 2025 Toronto International Film Festival.

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"Obviously I have a spiritual path and this path is about celebrating crisis," he says. "My path was through crisis. It's the only time when you connect with your essence. I just want to grow. So that's why I jump into the abyss."

Laxe tells me he didn't spend years perfecting a script or sharpening dialogue. Rather, he took the images that stuck with him — trucks speeding into the dusty desert, fueled by the rumble of their own speaker systems — and brought them to the free parties, where his cast coalesced on the dance floor.

"We were telling them that we were making 'Mad Max Zero,'" he recalls, but also something "more metaphysical, more spiritual. A few of them, I already knew. There are videos of us explaining the film in the middle of the dance floor with all the people dancing around. I mean it was quite crazy. It's something I would like to show to film schools."

Shot on grungy Super 16, the production drove deep into craggy, sandblasted wastelands, both in Morocco and mountainous Spain, where the crew would make hairpin turns along winding cliff roads that would give even fans of William Friedkin's legendary 1977 misadventure "Sorcerer" anxiety.

"It was my least dangerous film," Laxe counters, reminding me of his "Fire Will Come," the 2019 arson thriller for which he cast actual firefighters. "We were making the film in the middle of the flames, so I don't know. I'm a junkie of images and I need this drug."

There is a Herzogian streak to the bearded Laxe, a prophet-in-the-wilderness boldness that inspires his collaborators, notably longtime writing partner Santiago Fillol and the techno composer Kangding Ray, to make the leap of faith with him. But there also seems to come a point when talking about "Sirât" feels insufficient, as opposed to simply submitting to its pounding soundscapes, found-family camaraderie and (fair warning) churning moments of sudden loss that have shaken even the most hardy of audiences.

"The film evokes this community of wounded people," he says. "I'm not a sadistic guy that wants to make a spectator suffer. I have a lot of hope. I trust in human beings, even with their contradictions and weaknesses."

For those who wish to find a political reading in the movie, it's there for them, a parable about migration and fascism but also the euphoria of a headlong rush into the unknown. "Sirât" is giving odd comfort in a cultural moment of uncertainty, a rare outcome for a low-budget art film.

Its visionary maker knows exactly where he is going next.

"I got the message in Cannes," Laxe says. "People want to feel the freedom of the filmmaker or the auteur. What they appreciate is that we were jumping from a fifth floor to make this film. So for the next one —"

Our connection cuts out and it's almost too perfect: a Laxian cliffhanger moment in which ideas are yanked back by a rush of feeling. After several hours of me hoping this was intentional on his part, the director does indeed get back to me, apologetically. But until then, he is well served by the mystery.